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Since the beginning of this site, dA has been repeatedly criticized for its homophobic approach to art. Homosexual couples (specifically male-male representations because lesbians are hawt, guys) in particular have been repeatedly targeted by the site's admins for deletion, an occurrence so pervasive that one deviant, reapersun was able to hold an entire contest to attempt to illustrate the line of discrimination.

You might say, "the site is simply prudish!" Not true. They have an entire section labeled "fetish". Pictures of women having intercourse with tentacle monsters? De rigeur. Buick sized breasts oozing buckets of milk? Fine. But two consenting adults (especially male adults) touching? Kissing? My GOD, what filth!

The newest and most blatant example of dA's skewed treatment of gay people is a new stamp by prosaix Homophobia by prosaix

Try reporting it. You can't.

Why? Because tons of people have already tried and dA administrators have marked the case "invalid".

Their stock answer:
"Comment: Thank you for attempting to bring this deviation to the attention of the staff. Unfortunately this deviation does not meet the current definition for "Hate Art". It is important to remember that actual "Hate Art" expresses clearly racist ideals, such as the genocide or enslavement of a certain race or class of people. A work which simply expresses a dislike or negative opinion for a subject is not "Hate Art" regardless of how strong that opinion might be expressed, neither are deviations which you simply find offensive because the beliefs or opinions are the opposite of your own. Please review our FAQ entry on the subject of "Hate Art" available here help.deviantart.com/12/ so that you can be more familiar with the official definition."

Actually, no, dA. Maybe you should acquaint yourself with the year 2010 where gay people are people. Even the US government voted to expand the definition of 'hate crime" to include LGBTQ people with the Matthew Shepard Act (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_…). And even in 1990, George HW Bush signed into law the Hate Crime Statistics Act, the first to include and recognize queer people (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_Cri…). So. Even in your own definition, you include "sexual orientation".

What do you think homophobia is? "Fear of homosexuality" is what the word means in and of itself (etymologically speaking), but this word is now the equivalent of "prejudice based upon homosexual orientation". When someone commits a hate crime against a gay person it is labeled "homophobic", both legislatively and in laymen's terms. Homophobia means that you see gay people as being less, that you see them as a threat (to who knows what). Those feelings are based on stereotypes, stereotypes just as hateful and prejudiced as thinking someone black is going to harm you or that someone female is incompetent. What do you think that stamp means? It means "see gay people as less than you". When you see someone as less of a human being than you are, that creates a culture where it's just not as bad to beat, rape, murder or otherwise harm a person that's gay. This stamp is saying "I think gay people are less important than heterosexual people, who's with me?"

You don't see that as hateful?

But truly, the most appalling thing is the venue. dA is not a middle-of-nowhere town in the midwest (sorry, midwesterners, but I'm from there :/). It's an art site. This is happening on an art site. For centuries, the fine arts have been a haven for the gay and queer community, one of the few venues where we could find work and small bits of acceptance. The art community owes much of its foundation and ground-breaking achievements to gay people and gay culture (and YES, homo-eroticism), whether you're a poet (Sappho, The Iliad, ), musician (...pick one), illustrator (Leyendecker) or something almost indefinable (Warhol).

But dA, the world's largest, most famous art community is staffed by homophobic, prejudiced people and is allowing a stamp that promotes the hate of an already marginalized group of people.

:iconpowflip: is also making a powerful demonstration of the discrimination of dA's admins with this :thumb175363023: (read the comment before freaking out). This is what alerted me to the stamp in the first place, by the way.

:bulletred:Removal of PowFlip's stamp while not the other would illustrate dA's discrimination against gay people.
:bulletred:Leave them both up and dA wouldn't be following their own policy.
:bulletred:Take them both down, everybody goes home happy.

I hope dA takes the stamp down. I hope they make amends here. But given their past actions, I have very little confidence in them. This article is to let others know about the situation and what kind of organization dA really is.
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Chiminix Featured By Owner Edited Aug 31, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Compared to all the other stamps that bash religious people, I don't see the big deal with that stamp.

I mean, would you protest the removal of a stamp if it was labeled "I HATE CHRISTIANS"?
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madoke Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
dA is rlly gross tbh... i reported a photo of an actual lynching an they ignored it bc of "FR EEE SPEECH!!!1111!!!!1" fuck dA with a cactus
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LieutenantMatt Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2014  Hobbyist
Sorry, but from my experience I must say that dA has got to be the LEAST homophobic site I've ever been to
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PhoenixOfWildfires Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Old comment, I know, but if dA is the least homophobic website you've been to, I dread what the others must be like.
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matthew-lane Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist

LOL, I know I'm late to the party, but I read your statement & lolled.


"Since the beginning of this site, dA has been repeatedly criticized for its homophobic approach to art. Homosexual couples (specifically male-male representations because lesbians are hawt, guys) in particular have been repeatedly targeted by the site's admins for deletion, an occurrence so pervasive that one deviant, reapersun was able to hold an entire contest to attempt to illustrate the line of discrimination."


firstly the mods don't "target" anyone, they only answer moderation reports & secondly they moderate based on an objective set of rules, as spelled out in the TOS & FAQ.

As for the homophobia stamp, it is true, it does not meet the sites rules for hate art. Its not endorsing homophobia, its not saying you should hate gay people, its saying he is homophobic.

So jump down off your high horse & cool you self indignant outrage for a second. Just because he holds an opinion you don't like, doesn't mean he or she has to suddenly cease to exist... Because by that standard its you intention to persecute people based on the art they create not being to your liking. Its funny just how quickly people who claim to be for freedom of speech suddenly become complete fascists when they come across someone elses speech that they personally disagree with.

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The-Betteh Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wow. I was not aware that this was going on at all. Well time to do my part and do what they apparently don't want to see to make a point then.
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matthew-lane Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
You weren't aware, because it was never going on. This journal entry was written by a dA style drama lama, who got angry because his pet kink was reported & images that broke the rules were rightfully taken down. Unfortunately the outspoken LGBT members on dA have a tendency to be giant drama queens, second only to Sonic template "artists," anime otaku & My Little Pony fans.

dA has always had objective rules, which clearly state what can & cannot be posted here: When things get reported by users as breaking those rules (or when people just THINK something is breaking the rules), it is compared to those objective rules & if it is in breach the image is removed. The Mods don't go hunting for things to take down & contrary to what this user thinks there is no homophobia involved at all.
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aresa Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2013
=__= disgusting, but as hard as it is I prefer to see 'people' like them as trolls and do my best to not feeding them. How can that be considered as 'art' or even 'creative'? People deserve peace and respect, and whoever attemps to disturb must not be tolerated. People may not like or agree with homosexuality, it's ok, but deviations like that are kinda obssessive.
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izzy3301 Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2013
[link] READ IT
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kittykathats Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Not only that, but when I went to report this hate art, (warning: very disturbing, view at your own risk) [link] the admins completely ignored it. dA disgusts me sometimes. :(
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Enchanted-Lilac Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
? What picture o:
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Catthylove Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
dA has fucking issues.

First off, like you said, hate speech now includes sexual orientation. Therefore, that stamp is breaking the rules, right? :iconheaddeskplz:

If it wasn't against the rules, instead of being against the rules and them being hypocrites about it, there wouldn't by so much of a problem.
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nijjawolf Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
THEY CAN'T BAN THE STAMP BECAUSE ITS NOT BREAKING ANY RULES!
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Fellmekke Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013
I find it strange since last time I checked, one of their admin is a lesbian. Anyway, this journal would explain why they didn't ban ~Xiao-Fury after she harassed me- No, I mean after she harassed everyone. They banned her alt account !SiliconGlass since a comment expressed clearly hatred by saying that gays are things. :stare: On another side, I see a lot of yaoi still here. There's only the two same characters from my fandom that is being taken down, but we think it's a troll.

Part of the problem with the gay rights movement is the way they go about it. They despise having christians and anyone else forcing beliefs down their throat, but they do it themselves. Those "gay pride" and "born this way" doesn't help them. You aren't born gay, it's a chemical process in the brain. Insisting that every heteros can't understand having parades to show how proud you are- that would make being gay a choice. :stare: Shouldn't be proud of something you didn't choosed. The population won't think that their typical people too. That would be the same on dA. I'm a contributor at #LGBTQ and what I see the most is the lack of knowledge many members of the gay community have. (The same can apply with any type of community, obviously. Just look at wolfaboos...) Requesting equality, but putting down everyone who are against them or simply say "I'm a heterosexual" openly. That is, what I frequently see.
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moonlitinuyasha1985 Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013
How can anybody be proud to be a homophobe?
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moonlitinuyasha1985 Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013
Geez.:(
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il-palazzo3 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013
That is fucking horrifying. There is no excuse for that kind of hate anywhere.

There is a HUGE amount of malexmale art on this site though. I am a fan of it myself, and it thrives.
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Si1verwing Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I love dA, but this.... It's kind of like when you find out the bloke/girl you've loved for so long has been cheating on you.
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endler Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I don't know if this was here still considering this journal was from a while ago, but in their FAQ...

""Hate Speech" or "Hate Art" typically is clearly racist or bigoted and often promotes genocide, or the killing or destruction of an identifiable individual, race, religion, nationality, sexual orientation, or other specific group."

And they still allow it. Three years from when this journal was made. Even though they added sexual orientation, right there.
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Si1verwing Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Kinda slaps you awake, doesn't it?
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endler Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
:nod:
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Si1verwing Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It sucks! I love this site so much, but I don't want to be part of a corrupt society. I don't want to go, so I really hope dA shapes up, but hope spring's eternal.
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endler Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
It is really unfortunate that DA doesn't bother with its own rules. Hopefully it will get better eventually.
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Si1verwing Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
They need to replace all their staff with people who will actually give a crap, like me, or ~Dametora, or April.
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endler Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I don't think all but...they really do need to replace some in particular. > . <
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Si1verwing Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
r^2. Definitely.
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extremerebirth1 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I hope dA takes the stamp down?

Okay? Well why? Because it's differemt. Why does it matter if it offends you. We have freedom of speach. I don't think DA should take down anything.

Free Speech = Hate Speech

What about "Fuck Religion" stamps? Should they be taken down? If not, then youre a hypocrite
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neko-systeme Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013
One of my favorite artist uploaded a picture of two guys kissing. She had to put a mature filter BECAUSE some stupid homophobical person were thinking it was « inapropriate »

... Gosh I hate those people.
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GaussianCat Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Link to the deviation?
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neko-systeme Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
[link] ... Seems like she took off the mature filterer
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GaussianCat Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah alright. Thanks.
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neko-systeme Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
You're welcome
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diana6echo Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
right, so someone can't be afraid of gay/lesbian and not feel comfortable being around such people, even more, can't freely say "I don't like it" because you think it discriminates gay/lesbians, right? this is so discriminatory, you heterophobic
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richardidntwantodie Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
actually if someone was to be "heterophobic" They would be known to say things such as: "I do not believe that heterosexuals should have the same rights as everyone else" or "I refuse to interact with this person in a civil manner because they are sexually attracted to those of the opposite gender" Not "I oppose to this person proudly stating that they are too narrow-minded to adapt to social change and that they are so interested in someone's romantic and sexual activity that they openly protest against it if they do not think it meets their standards, even though it has ABSOLUTELY NO EFFECT ON THEIR PERSONAL LIVES WHATSOEVER!" Please think through what you are posting before you put it out there for the world to see, to avoid looking like an imbecile.
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diana6echo Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Heh, why I'm not surprised by this respond, tell me why. So I can not dislike gay/lesbians without being accused of homophobic? Thats fair? Why? This is as same, just example, like someone don't like broccoli, Scientology, yellow color, dogs, swimming. Same shit. There's no reason for not to like those things. So please, before you respond next time - THINK. It's still legal as the right to standing by your opinion. Don't like it? Well, go to China - you will love their passion for censorship^^.
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richardidntwantodie Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I never said you weren't entitled to your opinion, even if I don't agree with it, you are entitled to think what you like, just like everyone else not being ruled by a dictatorship. What I said was, in no way was the statement "heterophobic" considering the fact that the author wrote nothing that would constitute as discrimination against heterosexuality. Also, yes it is homophobic to dislike gays/lesbians, that is what the word homophobia means: fear or dislike towards people who are attracted to those of the same gender, what did you think the word homophobia meant?! And in what way is it the same? What you're doing is demeaning and publicly speaking out against a minority of people, (PEOPLE, ACTUAL HUMAN BEINGS!) For something they have no control over and you're telling me to think? That is like saying, "Oh I don't like black people, they should be oppressed" Or "Hitler is right about those stinking Jews" Like, seriously I don't know what kind of argument you think you're making but darling I'm afraid you don't have a leg to stand on.
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diana6echo Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
green is also green and somehow some people doesn't like green, or Chinese food and so on. theres no difference between disliking/being afraid of dogs and someone who is gay. no one said (geez, do you even read?) that they have to destroy everything they don't like. relax, or you will die young. gay are not oppressed in any way. besides, go somewhere where people have real problems, not only who they want to go to bed with
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richardidntwantodie Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
you're kidding me right? I have honestly lost all faith in humanity if you are being serious and not just trolling right now because that is seriously one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard in my life! I mean, did you actually just compare homosexuals to dogs?! I can read actually as it happens, can you? Doesn't look like it, you aren't even acknowledging anything I said, you're just spewing random crap! Please come back when you have something of even minor intelligence to add. Not oppressed in anyway? Seriously? SERIOUSLY?
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ravenaudron Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
DA is stupid beyond belief when it comes to some things. I once reported a picture that was blatant child pornography, complete with link, and they said the same thing. Invalid because there was no proof. Do they even LOOK at the deviations that are reported???
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Si1verwing Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That's not the only problem, I had to chase after them and MAKE them ban !100sean because they blew me off with a "just block him" the first time, when I knew that was never going to work.
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XX-WindyKnights-XX Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I don't think it's fair to say that just because they didn't take this down means that dA hates gays. There is pro-gay support that happens on this site too. With that being said, This stamp is the about the same as saying 'Racist And Proud Of It'. Basicly hating people that are different; not because they choose but because that's how they were born. I can understand why this stamp could offend people. It's offended me, but reporting it isn't going to help. People who are ignorant and against those who are different are always going to find a way to metaphorically (or literally) anybody that isn't like them. All anybody can do is support loving, or at least tolerating others despite the things that divide them by race, orientation or gender.
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XX-WindyKnights-XX Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Then again everyone could be over reacting about this, because it might, just bear with me, be a trolling. Maybe, just maybe, not everyone who isn't gay or bi or pan or so on is a hateful bag of homophobic hate. Maybe those who act that way (on the internet especially) should just be laughed at and ignored, instead of being taken seriously? I don't know, just saying.
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akseiya Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
LOL

Is your crusade "To Save Our Gays!!!" well on the way?
I love it when people claiming to aim for tolerance spread its exact opposite.
Someone might have seen one Gay Pride too many. Someone might have been harassed because of spurning same-sex suitor's advances. Folks like this will always proudly own the label and laugh all the way (especially that the term "homophobia" was designed to sound like names of actual disorders, so "owning up" is a way of proving not to be a mindless sheep).

BTW the guy is a proud troll too, he switches from "homophobe" to "lauching at homophobes" quite quickly. His DD'd "Hinsight" stamp has both opposite stamps listed in description.

To ~KijiaNeal14 - of course we can. My original circle of close friends (before I went expat) contained several declared gay guys and gals and it made no difference outside the romantic sphere. As for my friends abroad - I don't know and I don't care in the least. Among "My People" there were also fag hags, fag stags, straight guys acting camp to get into good graces of the fag hags and so on, and we all got along very well. I strongly suspect at least two of the guys discovered some unknown and suppressed aspects of themselves in the progress too :D

On the other hand I'm fed up with all the bombardment, all the propaganda for "gay's OK", "we're humans too" (orly, you fekin shocked me now) and other shit assuming everyone everywhere is a retarded bigot. While I constantly challenge my actually homophobic friends to face their prejudice and act like an adult human (with some success) and actively support stuff like gay marriage and child adoption by same-sex couples, I also sometimes do proudly wave around the label of a homophobe. It's because of folks like you.
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Yummixx2 Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2012  Student General Artist
Lesbians, gays and bi-sexuals are humans as well, you homophobes. What, just because of someones choices in life they're suddenly from another planet? No! The Jews were slaughtered because of a RELIGION they believed in. Think about it: Because you believed in only the Old Testament, you weer killed. That's BS.
If you find one day you like someone of the same gender, who cares? That doesn't automatically mean you came from Saturn or Jupiter. It means you made that life choice, and it's your business. Don't let homophobes treat you like crap because they can't handle that the world doesn't revolve around their opinions of what's right or wrong.
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pieladyUSA Featured By Owner May 26, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree that the rules concerning the fetishes is ridiculous and unfair, but I do not think that the "homophobe" stamp is horrible. Some people don't agree with homosexuality, and it's just as unfair if a gay person made a "heterophobe" stamp and was hated for it.

I just think the fetishes, homosexual, heterosexual, or whatever-else-sexual, should be OFF of an art site. Opinions, however unlikable according to a certain audience, should remain.
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KijiaNeal14 Featured By Owner May 12, 2012
Why can't we all just get the F**K along?!
I am so tired of people acting like: OMG your a fag/dyke/ take your pick! SO WHAT GAY PEOPLE WALK THE STREETS. REGULAR COUPLES DO THE SAME. WE AREN'T DIFFERENT! WE ALL FALL IN LOVE!
It's a matter of choice, and respect. That's all it boils down to.
THANK YOU FOR WRITING THIS
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shawnsmithart Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
The stamp creator mentions that the stamp does not necessarily reflect his/her personal opinion. It is also a proud of "homophobia", stamp, being proud of an irrational fear. Its a really good tactic to gain pageviews.
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Why-did-Kenji-die Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012
if youre scared of something that doesnt make you see it as something less than yourself. you are wrong there.
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EmpatheticFool Featured By Owner May 1, 2012  Student General Artist
You should probably read further as He/She said that the word homophobia adopted said new meaning.
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Why-did-Kenji-die Featured By Owner May 1, 2012
dont feel like reading it again, when i see gay people i choke, but i dont think im better than them
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